“Crushing is the process and soaring is the promise.”
“If we only tell you about soaring and we don’t tell you about crushing, when crushing happens in your life it looks like what we preach is not true.”
“We live in a time where people preach more about the promises and less about the process.”
“You’re saying, ‘How is my life in such shambles?’ Never realizing that those that God is going to anoint the most, he always crushes the most severely.”
In a powerful new interview, Bishop T.D. Jakes spoke these words to the congregation at Elevation Church about his new book, Crushing: God Turns Pressure into Power.
But that’s not all this preacher had to say as he wowed the audience with Gospel truth!
In his second visit to Elevation’s stage, Bishop Jakes didn’t disappoint.
The nearly 2-hour recording of his interview has already reached over 1,000,000 views on YouTube.
Here are a few noteworthy timestamps to give you a peek into what God poured out through Jakes and during the interview.
Part 1: Crushing: God Turns Pressure into Power 10:25
Furtick: “The last time you were here, you wrote Soar… And now we’re on Crushing… So, what happened?”
Jakes: “One is not diabolically opposed to the other. For the eagle, Soar is about flying; for the eaglet, Soar is about falling. If the Eagle stirs her nest and the eaglets are pushed out of the comfort of their nest, is that not crushing? If their food supply is now cut off and they are pushed out by their own mother to fall off the side of the cliff, is that not crushing? Why would momma do that to me? Why would momma not feed me? And in the process of falling, flapping its wings in hysteria, it is the thing that crushed the eaglet that causes it to soar.”
Our lives in God’s Hands are promised abundant life and glory in His Victorious Name. But this promise does not come without pain and even great fiery pressure in trials.
Using the analogy of archery, Bishop adds, “It is the force in which you are pulled back that will determine the height to which you will fly.”
Part 2: Responding to God’s Crushing 15:25
Jakes then described a period of crushing in his own life and the purpose God had behind it.
You see, God has blessed Bishop Jakes with financial success through being the bestselling author of multiple popular books.
Jakes explains, “Some people would later question: ‘are you serving God for stuff?’ So God allowed me to be crushed early, so that later I would know … It is not for the things that I do what I do, but for the Love and the Power and the Anointing.”
Jakes tells the story of when he was a young man just starting out in life, “I was pastoring and working a full-time job … I wasn’t wealthy or anything like that, but I had a car and a good job and I had my own place and I was good enough to to say I do [to my wife].
“Not long after the whole country shifted and the Union Carbide shut down … I was unemployed and ran out of unemployment and eventually they repossessed my car and eventually I could not feed my children and eventually it got so low that the Deacons loaned me a car but the car was so raggedy that they hid it in the back of the church.
“It got so bad that the car broke down on the side of the road and I had to thumb [hitchhike] to get to church and climb across the coal cars on the railroad tracks to go into the church to preach faith. I never stopped preaching, I never let up on preaching the power of God and the strength of God.
“God knew that later in my life he was going to bless me extraordinarily … sometimes he crushes you because he’s going to bless you so much He does not want you to become arrogant like your predecessors.
“Any time he’s going to exalt you, he humbles you.”
Bishop also described many examples in history and the Bible’s history of people who were deeply crushed.
Every time, when they were submitted to God and His Mighty Crushing Hand, these people rose to brilliant capacities in the Kingdom. Their names still resound around the nations for the lives they led and purposes they accomplished.
Even in the hardest circumstances, we have the opportunity to represent God’s Power by keeping on, keeping faith, choosing joy, and choosing to Love.
Part 3: Why Crushing? 22:20
Jakes: “Obscurity, Pastor, is a great gift. There’s a reason an embryo is developed in obscurity … a reason Christ dwelt in obscurity. Obscurity gives you a chance to have development, to fight your own devils, to overcome your own obstacles, to get your priorities in alignment.”
Jakes continues to teach the people why crushing and preparation often happens in obscurity. We oftentimes get confused or can feel ignored by God allowing us to be hidden for a season.
“Anything that’s valuable, you protect … You have been hidden because you are valuable. When the time is right — and you are strong enough to withstand the elements you will be exposed to — then you will be revealed.”
Part 4: “What’s My Name?” 28:00
Jakes: “Being global causes you to be relevant in so many rooms where the rules are different.”
Jakes describes the intensity of being on God’s promotion plan. He does not promote for your own comfort. He gives platforms to those who will spread his name far and wide.
“I don’t want to go … most of the preachers today only preach to Christians … [But] we would pitch a tent in the roughest part of town … people were throwing needles on the altar, crack cocaine… The Bible said to go into all the World.”
Bishop shares some of the most radical experiences he has had as a servant of God, being led to people and places beyond what he could ever imagine.
And on the same note, he explains how “AQ, your adaptability quotient” is formed by God’s crushing you. God has designed a future for you beyond your current capacity. Only by being broken and remade in Him again and again will you be able to enter certain realms He wants you in.
Jakes: “What makes a minister effective and not condescending … is the one who sees a little bit of themselves in the one coming down the aisle. When you’re kin to them, you’re moved with compassion.”
Part 5: “What Intimidates You?” 39:00
Pastor Steven asks Bishop Jakes to describe his “Pressure Management System.”
In this part, Jakes is very honest on what intimidates him and also what inspires his tenacity through the troubles.
Jakes: “I refuse to allow what I feel to abort what I’m called to.”
“You have to feel the fear and do it anyway. You don’t want to end up sitting in a nursing home … wondering what would’ve happened if you had more courage. The one thing you will never get is more time.”
Part 6: The “Download” That Demanded a Response 55:50
There was a specific revelation that God “downloaded” to Jakes through the Holy Spirit, which grew too large for any sermon and he realized this needed to be written as a book. As a faithful servant, he responded: Yes, Lord.
His initial hooking revelation was that as grapes are the only fruit raised to be crushed for their ultimate purpose, “I am raised to be crushed.” To reach our greatest purpose, the greatest pressure will be applied.
Jakes: “Nobody is as brutally honest about the crushing we experience but God. The whole emblem of Christianity is the cross. Duh.”
Bishop Jakes describes the immense amount of detail in the Temple of Meeting … The Old Testament process for the Israelites to receive the promise:
“You will wash later. You will burn first. The Apostle says in the New Testament … to be a living sacrifice. A living sacrifice is something that is burned alive. It’s all up front. The first outer court is the smell of death. But as you move in, it is overwhelmed by the smell of incense, the Holy of Holies. You came into the temple to meet with God. But you have to walk through the whole process to pass through the veils and receive God.
“In our lives, when God gets ready to serve us to the world, there are certain crushings we go through … Sometimes in your heart, in your emotions … The same part of the brain that sends the message about a broken heart sends those messages about a stabbed leg.”
Bishop: “But remember: the crushing is not the end.”
Part 7: “Crushing Is a Stage; It’s Not a Destination.” 1:06:30
Bishop Jakes from here to the end of the interview drives home the thing that burned his own soul. He needs you to know the thing that God directly told him: “I want you to go tell my people! Crushing is a stage; it’s not your destination!
“You have become so accustomed to pain that it is their place of residence. I challenge you to break your way out, even if through the window. I challenge you to be happy even if it feels abnormal. What should’ve been a process, you have made permanent. God is trying to rescue you out of the pit, but you choose to stay permanent. Alone. It is not good for man to be alone! Your Creator said so.
“You want to retreat to the familiar because even though it is toxic, it has become normal. But believing would free you. You shall know the truth and the truth will make you free.
“The enemy keeps you blind so you cannot see the light … The hardest thing in the world is to go from a dark room to a bright light.”
God needs to crush you, but the purpose is to bring you out and make you stronger. Grapes are their strongest when they come out from the crushing and become wine.
Some of us need to understand the process and allow God to work us into the image of Him we need to be in order to become effective.
Yet, some of us need to understand the crushing and believe Him so greatly that our faith doesn’t fade away. We need to allow the pain to cut off, to prune away, those parts of us that are not going to allow us to grow according to God’s vision. We need to allow Him access to all of us, so our trust in Him is not disintegrated, but reestablished.
I highly encourage you to listen to the full interview and allow God to speak to you in unique ways.
Even better, purchase and read his book Crushing: God Turns Pressure into Power.
God has downloaded a radical message through Jakes as a vessel, that He desires all His children to access. May your life be empowered, strengthened and encouraged as you engage with the content of Crushing.